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Mill Spies Stole Secrets

January 25 2011 by Ron (942 views)
Publications & Mills outside the UK & TIMS | 2 comments

OK, it was in the early 19th century, but this fascinating story of early industrial espionage is worth reading! Derek Ogden and Geral Bost explain how American milling secrets were taken back to Germany to the benefit of European mills.

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This book, based on an 1832 publication in Berlin, describes Ganzel & Wulff's journey round the USA between 1827 and 1829, the mills they visited and how they were used to produce export quality flour. This issue of Bibliotecha Molinologica publishes the drawings and the text of the 1832 report together for the first time. Written in Engish it is available from the TIMS bookshop at http://shop.millsarchivetrust.org/home.php?cat=27 - go there for more details

Among the other 20 TIMS publications sold on behalf of TIMS at the Mills Archive shop is the latest edition of International Molinology - the best English langauge journal on mills

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Mon, January 31, 2011

Dear Ron, Interesting to see the spies found at least one mill with seven foot millstones. Does anyone know of such large stones in England at the time?

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Wed, February 09, 2011

Charlie in the USA, artark88@copper.net wrote in highlighting a movement in the opposite direction:

Water Powered Mill Site Archaeology:  Pennsylvania Museum and Historical Commission (U.S.) has received the documentation of 136 mill sites dating 1757 to 1872 within a 7-township, 1-borough area of N. Wayne Co., extreme N.E. cor. of PA.  Two findings were that frontier mills were the nucleii for earliest labor, social, religious and educational cooperation (proto-communities), and that dimensions and foundation openings of sawmills 1,200 miles apart and 50+ years apart (bracketing Oliver Evans’ first, 1795, published plans—concretization of the oral, mill-craft tradition)were almost congruent.  The c.1820s Hiawatha sawmill in PA and the 1770 Hewitt sawmill in FL were compared.

We suggest that European immigrants to the U.S carried a “mental template” of proven mill construction from the Old World.



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